2010-07-15

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2010-07-15 12:51 am

Softer spaces

Today I read China MiƩville's The City and The City, and it was really interesting, but now I am wondering about something.

It's a pretty common trope to drop a fictional country into a world which is *otherwise* meant to be identical to our own, and I can think offhand of fictional Eastern European or African countries, or Asian or Central American ones... but no North American ones, and *maybe* a couple meant to be Western European (Princess Bride, I think?). Yeah, there's Gilead and Oceania and such, but the point of them is that they *don't* exist in a world identical to ours.

It might be that there are actually many examples of fictional WE/NA countries, I am just not well read enough (very possible). Or I tend to consume Western media, which may have a hard time imagining changes to familiar geography/understand the local countries well enough it does not *need* to invent imaginary countries, which are easy permission to get things wrong. Perhaps Chinese literature has many such countries, far away fantasy islands filled with people drawn from some rough hybrid of English and Spanish stereotypes, whereas the borders of Burma and Thailand are understood to be far too definite to make room for imaginary nations.

I hope so. Otherwise it implies something... unsurprising... about the pieces we consider "essential" for a world to be recognizably "this" one.

Of course, when it comes to North America (Northern America? I'm not including Central America, which seems to have different rules), we have very few countries to sneak new ones between. It would be difficult to be vague about location, as is often the case with fictional countries. (And the history must change, but that is true with any imaginary map, the trope requires us to gloss over this fact.) Still... if anyone knows of any examples, I'd be very curious to see a recognizably North American country which is not the USA and not Canada and not Mexico either.
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2010-07-15 07:39 pm
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Um.

So I am reading this interview with the newest JSA writer, because I have dropped the book ages ago but who knows, maybe I can be won back over. And then I get to this line:

Jay Garrick will be the center of the universe here... I think it will be interesting to watch Jay evolve and grow as a character.

Which left me scratching my head, because I am not entirely sure what that *means* in the context of Jay Garrick. If I had to pick *one* DCU character who has entirely grown into themselves, it would probably be Jay on that list. (I'd love for it to be Hippolyta, but I think the comics are against me on that one.) I'm not saying he should be a static character, or that there are no new challenges in his world for him to overcome, but the character who walks out the other side of this storyline will be in every essential the same one who walked in. Ran in, I suppose.

I'm fond of the JSA Old Guard, in part because they've been around long enough to figure out exactly who they are, separately and together. Which causes its own sort of conflict, but not one very similar to the confused teenaged portion of their membership.

Except now I have this mental image of Alan Scott being Disapproving at Jay: "You're too old to be going through a mid-life crisis."

And Jay grins at him. "If you say so. *Sentinel*."

And then Alan is Extra Disapproving, but really Jay is used to that sort of thing as they've been BFFs for SO LONG, you guys. SOOOOOO LOOOOOOONG.