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odditycollector ([personal profile] odditycollector) wrote2006-04-19 08:34 pm

This would have been easier if I could draw.

I really should know better, but I clicked on a link to the DC message boards, topic of the new Frank Miller cover.

In summary... this is why I’m going to stay way the hell over here okay thanks. However, one exchange did catch my attention and would not let me shake it as it might have a sane person.

[livejournal.com profile] maelithil:
Depicting [women] as an ass, a pair of tits, some gorgeous thighs is doing them a disservice. Distilling them into nothing but their sexual attributes is objectifying. And that's exactly what this cover does.


Random Fanboy:
And notice that Superman's chest is OFTEN a whole panel unto itself. Not Superman fighting the bad guy. Not Superman standing full figure. Superman's chest. Just his chest. His huge, massive, S-draped, extraterrestrially muscular chest. Is Superman being objectified? Is he being used? Should I cry for Superman?


And. Just. What? This is the counterexample?

But! Maybe it’s not that his logic is just that scary. Maybe it's hard to understand what she’s talking about because it really, honestly is that there’s no comparable example featuring a male denizen of the DCU. I mean, even the occasional Nightwing crotch shot *tries* to have context.

Obviously, something had to be done. For The Good Of Fandom.

Luckily, much like Miller, I have no shame.

 
Totally Appropriate Covers (with bonus, never before seen script excerpts!)

 



Hal’s flying away from us through a generic starfield, nothing interesting to see except him. Have him wriggle around, giving us a good shot of his package. Add some details, something fancy for the fanboys to drool over, but don’t let it draw attention away from the point of the cover – that Kyle has nothing, NOTHING, on my boy Hal.

 



Be careful with this one – we don’t want Supes to come off as too powerful, too imposing. Maybe have him lean a bit, off balance, the better to show off his *well filled* briefs. He's fiddling with the waist line, such a cock *heh* tease. He knows he’s got what we want, and if we turn the cover, he’ll let us have it.

 



Well, we’ve done just about every variation on the theme by now, so let’s go back to the basics: Black on black, a full cover shot of Batman’s ass. Add in the utility belt for colour – give it that Sin City look. Show me thick, powerful legs under that latex or whatever the hell he wears. Clenched butt muscles. Make it obvious this is no BatGIRL we’re talking about.


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um?

[identity profile] blackdove24.livejournal.com 2006-05-12 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
it is getting old, and i don't care to get into it anymore, but i would just like to clarify that at any point i didn't say that i stay the hell away from this or these type of comics. i guess i can kinda see where you though that, but i was referring moreso to the fact that i don't particularly read action comics, (and most DC comics, really) just because i don't care for DC comics... not because i actively avoid them or anything. i do enjoy superhero comics, i've just always stuck more to marvel, image, wildstorm (beginning back before their association with DC), ABC, etc., and the essence of this argument is something that applies to all superhero comics, and a lot of non-superhero comics.
i was also making a joke with the action comics crack.

Re: um?

(Anonymous) 2006-05-12 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I think he thought he was replying to the whole post, not to your comment in particular... Probably just scrolled down, saw the word "reply" and hit it. ^_^;;;

Sorry about the troll, probably one of the guys from Talk@Newsarama.

--Libby

Re: um?

[identity profile] g-pudding.livejournal.com 2006-05-20 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't Image kind of infamous for T&A art?