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odditycollector ([personal profile] odditycollector) wrote2006-04-19 08:34 pm

This would have been easier if I could draw.

I really should know better, but I clicked on a link to the DC message boards, topic of the new Frank Miller cover.

In summary... this is why I’m going to stay way the hell over here okay thanks. However, one exchange did catch my attention and would not let me shake it as it might have a sane person.

[livejournal.com profile] maelithil:
Depicting [women] as an ass, a pair of tits, some gorgeous thighs is doing them a disservice. Distilling them into nothing but their sexual attributes is objectifying. And that's exactly what this cover does.


Random Fanboy:
And notice that Superman's chest is OFTEN a whole panel unto itself. Not Superman fighting the bad guy. Not Superman standing full figure. Superman's chest. Just his chest. His huge, massive, S-draped, extraterrestrially muscular chest. Is Superman being objectified? Is he being used? Should I cry for Superman?


And. Just. What? This is the counterexample?

But! Maybe it’s not that his logic is just that scary. Maybe it's hard to understand what she’s talking about because it really, honestly is that there’s no comparable example featuring a male denizen of the DCU. I mean, even the occasional Nightwing crotch shot *tries* to have context.

Obviously, something had to be done. For The Good Of Fandom.

Luckily, much like Miller, I have no shame.

 
Totally Appropriate Covers (with bonus, never before seen script excerpts!)

 



Hal’s flying away from us through a generic starfield, nothing interesting to see except him. Have him wriggle around, giving us a good shot of his package. Add some details, something fancy for the fanboys to drool over, but don’t let it draw attention away from the point of the cover – that Kyle has nothing, NOTHING, on my boy Hal.

 



Be careful with this one – we don’t want Supes to come off as too powerful, too imposing. Maybe have him lean a bit, off balance, the better to show off his *well filled* briefs. He's fiddling with the waist line, such a cock *heh* tease. He knows he’s got what we want, and if we turn the cover, he’ll let us have it.

 



Well, we’ve done just about every variation on the theme by now, so let’s go back to the basics: Black on black, a full cover shot of Batman’s ass. Add in the utility belt for colour – give it that Sin City look. Show me thick, powerful legs under that latex or whatever the hell he wears. Clenched butt muscles. Make it obvious this is no BatGIRL we’re talking about.


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[identity profile] zandperl.livejournal.com 2006-05-16 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh. I'm afraid I agree with Western culture's ideal that men are not physically beautiful. Those are gross! And quite effective.

[identity profile] alexisallen.livejournal.com 2006-05-16 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
On the flip side, how about the rapid success of the shoujo market for women, filled to the brim with beautiful boys who are as androgynous as they are hopelessly attractive?

And if you're going to try to justify this, what you say is that these are drawings, and fantasies, and boys are smart enough to know the difference between a drawing of boobs and a real girl. That's the argument I'd pose, anyway.

[identity profile] alexisallen.livejournal.com 2006-05-16 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh wait. Not that you are trying to justify this. Sorry, I'm getting everyone's opinions all jumbled up.

[identity profile] zandperl.livejournal.com 2006-05-16 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
No worries. :)

Just this weekend I was watching the Final Fantasy 7 movie, and I remarked to my boyfriend how bizarre it was that Cloud has these rippling Schwarzenegger biceps, and yet such an effeminate face.

[identity profile] geniusdreams.livejournal.com 2006-05-17 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, he's got a feminine face.

Just like god has a male face. Would you say that God should have a male face?

Dumbass.

He's got the same face you'd expect children to have. Why not say he has a male face. After all, it's HIS face.

Just goes to show how females are fucked up and try to steal everything good for themselves. What next, you think the planet Earth is a female being? Or that "women create life"?

[identity profile] geniusdreams.livejournal.com 2006-05-17 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
And who made us this way?

Women did.

Because females are fucked up sadistic monsters who have tried (and managed) to physically disfigure one half of their own species, via sexual selection, done for anti-aesthetic purposes.

How sick is that? If I threw acid on a woman's face to disfigure her, you'd think I was sick. But if 99.9% of females have disfigured all the male's faces... NO that's just fine! But what females have done to us is even WORSE than acid-attacks, because you've damaged our DNA, so it affects all future generations, unlike the acid-attack.

This just goes to show, that there is no monster in reality or fantasy, more twisted and fake, than the average female.