I can say this with some sense of confidence because we gay men do this to each other in our erotic art Well, yes, I would assume so. And I don't much care for the personalities of the characters in downloaded porn, either. Erotic art is *not* the same thing as mainstream media, which comics claim to be.
Sorry, that's just the way nature made us Yeah, no. "Men are just *like that* and women should just shut up and deal," is *not* an acceptable excuse. It's insulting to women, it's insulting to *men*, and there's a ten minute rant here I'm not going to bother with over because (a) it'll just piss me off, especially when (b) I suspect I'd just be wasting my time.
I suspect more men *won't even notice* the blatant objectification than will care - it's not like T&A are a rationed resource in comics. But covers like that make it hard for many women, and I hope, men as well not to feel uncomfortable.
Hell, I get worried when my boyfriends don't objectify me... There's a difference between "Yes, honey, I *know* you love me for my sense of humour, but don't you love my for my ass too?" and the blanket objectification of the *idea* of what you are, or even of a group you identify as.
I'm not sure how aware you are of fandom, but I know there are a *lot* of gay men who have problems with the fetishization as part of the (well, one of the) "Slasher" mentality. (The: "Oh, he's pretty. So's he! They should totally fuck!" as squealed by (often) young teenage girls.)
Perhaps the perspective of a gay man can help I doubt it. I don't think I need any "help" here at all. This was, yes, an exercise in switching perspective, but it seems to me you've missed the point.
Re: Looks good to me
Date: 2006-04-26 03:31 am (UTC)Well, yes, I would assume so. And I don't much care for the personalities of the characters in downloaded porn, either. Erotic art is *not* the same thing as mainstream media, which comics claim to be.
Sorry, that's just the way nature made us
Yeah, no. "Men are just *like that* and women should just shut up and deal," is *not* an acceptable excuse. It's insulting to women, it's insulting to *men*, and there's a ten minute rant here I'm not going to bother with over because (a) it'll just piss me off, especially when (b) I suspect I'd just be wasting my time.
I suspect more men *won't even notice* the blatant objectification than will care - it's not like T&A are a rationed resource in comics. But covers like that make it hard for many women, and I hope, men as well not to feel uncomfortable.
Hell, I get worried when my boyfriends don't objectify me...
There's a difference between "Yes, honey, I *know* you love me for my sense of humour, but don't you love my for my ass too?" and the blanket objectification of the *idea* of what you are, or even of a group you identify as.
I'm not sure how aware you are of fandom, but I know there are a *lot* of gay men who have problems with the fetishization as part of the (well, one of the) "Slasher" mentality. (The: "Oh, he's pretty. So's he! They should totally fuck!" as squealed by (often) young teenage girls.)
Perhaps the perspective of a gay man can help
I doubt it. I don't think I need any "help" here at all. This was, yes, an exercise in switching perspective, but it seems to me you've missed the point.