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I watched the pilot and second episode of Caprica, and they seemed amazingly long for the running time and stuck on a single, depressing emotional note. And not even *good* depressing. And I do not care about any of the characters.

Thus, I am going to take it off the list of shows I am following, which is just *wrong* because it leaves me with no spaceships at all! I am thinking of catching either Farscape or Babylon 5 to fill this lack. Or if anyone has better suggestions....?

Other shows I am following: Grey's Anatomy - It is really starting to bother me, what they are/have forever been doing to Cristina. Or maybe just that it's so realistic? She is fighting, but I know women who've been kicked into the same trap.

Leverage - I am increasingly convinced the *show* ships the OT3. Although I always immediately forget any important emotional beats. Made it awkward trying to talk to people about The Future Job, I will say.

White Collar - A new one! After there were 3 consecutive posts on my flist promising me Awesomeness, I gave in and checked it out. I am not decided where it lives on the Awesome scale, but it is a good 9.2 on Hot. That Neal Caffrey is ridiculously pretty, I will take him in a package of a half dozen.

(Though I will not share what I would *do* with them, lest you think less of me.)

The last ep even guest starred Sarah Carter, who I've been known to have impure thoughts about, so full points this show in getting my attention! (Although she did not ping me very hard this time around, maybe it was the hair?)
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From: [personal profile] brownbetty


I think you would really like Farscape, and should give it a whirl.
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Also, I think the most recent Ep. of WC was all over the place, and I could have written this episode better, so.
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I haven't been following Grey's recently (I am too angry at most of the characters!). What have they been doing to my beloved Cristina?
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Yeah, that sounds unpleasantly not new. :( I have been unhappy with how the show treats Cristina from the beginning.

From: [identity profile] thegameiam.livejournal.com


B5 is a fantastic show - the first season is wobbly, as the characters find their footing, but has a few definite high notes. Seasons 2-4 are masterful, and they demonstrate the potential of long-term storytelling on network TV. Season 5 is a disappointment, because there was such uncertainty about whether they would *get* a fifth season that the most important storylines were wrapped up at the end of 4, and there were also some cast changes which did not help the show overall.

I highly recommend it.

From: [identity profile] the-wanlorn.livejournal.com


I am honestly kind of weirded out by how much I honestly believe we're meant to see the OT3 on Leverage. I mean, I never thought I would turn into one of those crazy people AND YET.

From: [identity profile] odditycollector.livejournal.com


They are at the stage where the three of them have married couple telepathy/fighting. It is amazing.

I will give a warning, though: if you think Leverage is mind-blowing in its OT3tastic-ness, you should probably stay away from White Collar. Just saying. Leverage at least went in for initial relationship building.


From: [identity profile] the-wanlorn.livejournal.com


The only reason why I am not absolutely insane over White Collar is because the show itself doesn't make me :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD as hard as Leverage does. That said, oh my god Peter, Elizabeth, and Neal. The fucking pilot had me making massive : faces and shipping them.

From: [identity profile] the-wanlorn.livejournal.com


Also, what the fuck, I think I totally skipped over the beginning of your entry, because why would I not have commented on how fucking awesome Farscape is, especially compared to B5? But, uh, I think a lot of that is because I don't really give a shit about politics and stuff like that, which B5 is really, really high on. Farscape is more about epic character development. Whenever I rewatch it (WHICH IS EMBARRASSINGLY OFTEN, CONSIDERING I WATCHED IT WHEN IT u c ON SCIFI), I'm always momentarily shocked by how incredibly different the characters in season one are from where they end up in season four.

That said, it takes most of season one to get good. It starts off as a mostly lolzy show, and then, general consensus seems to be that at "A Human Reaction" it's suddenly "Oh my god this show is amazing." I mean, in retrospect, there are a lot of important season one episodes in terms of developing the characters so that you can be all heartbroken by the end of season four with how much they've changed, but when you're first watching, it's kind of hard to get through.

I could talk about Farscape all day. :(

From: [identity profile] ndgmtlcd.livejournal.com


Farscape has a better sense of humor and Babylon 5 has better spaceships.

From: [identity profile] angiv.livejournal.com


B5 has a decent sense of humour at times, but yes, Farscape is far funnier.

I don't know that there are any better spaceships than Moya though. That said, I'm not sure the idea behind Moya would have come about without the Shadow vessels from B5.

From: [identity profile] milkshake-b.livejournal.com


You mean you haven't seen either of those?!?!?!?!!?!? I am shocked into gratuitous interobanging!

I highly recommend them both, but for different reasons. They both get A++ marks on female characters (Farscape is better with women having sex lives, but B5 has its two most ass-kick speeches in the whole series--and this is a speechifying series--delivered by female characters; I still get chills watching either of them), and they both have excellent arcage. B5 has a more coherent overall plot, but Farscape does more with inverting SF tropes. B5 does better epic drama and politics, but Farscape does better interpersonal drama and psychology. B5 has better music (the music makes a lot of scenes) but Farscape has better visuals (this latter is, admittedly, mostly because B5 pretty much invented CGI. Also, the lens flare. They apologize most sincerely for that). They both take a while to find their feet (I nearly gave up on Farscape at one point in the first season and only got interested again when Scorpius shows up). Fascape probably has better dialog than B5--Babylon 5 gets a lot of "Nobody talks like that!" complaints, although it never bothered me--but B5 is definitely an "Everyone lives to the twenty-third century" show, in religion as well as race. Every area you can go "Yes, but one has better thingie than the other!" you can come up with a retort for.

All and all, I'd say this one depends a lot on what you're in the mood for, although by all means do watch them both, just not at the same time. But to start, do you want epic space opera or the adventures of an American trapped in the Australian BDSM scene?
Edited Date: 2010-02-14 12:06 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] milkshake-b.livejournal.com


I was just talking to [livejournal.com profile] azarias and I think she's pitching for B5; she's pointing out "And queers got to live to the 23rd century too!" One of her absolute favorite things about the series is a moment in it when two guys are traveling incognito and the cover they're assigned is a honeymooning couple: as she puts it, "That's not just saying 'Yes, gays are fine,' that's saying 'In the future this is so accepted and normal that we use it for undercover operatives because who would even think twice?' which is more eloquent than a Very Special Episode about how Queerness is Okay would have been."

A lot Babylon 5 is remarkable because it really feels like this is what humanity will be like in the future; there's money and corporations and political infighting and people with bad relationships and addictions and just... us. Us with a bigger viewpoint and a few more additions, all of which are handled believably as well. (I suspect the last vestiges of racism and homophobia died on earth when telepaths were discovered, all "You disgusting perverted sub-hu--what? Telepaths?! Come, my black queer transexual friend, let us break in some Teep skulls!" It's all about having someone else to hate and fear.)

That said, [livejournal.com profile] azarias also says "She should watch Farscape, too! It's lolzier!"

Just really, really not at the same time. Hell, when you Farscape limit yourself to a maximum of three episodes at once as soon as Scorpius shows up. I marathoned once and wasn't the same for days afterwards--your mind starts warping with John's. ([livejournal.com profile] azarias: "Farscape is one of the most believable portrayals of someone being driven batshit insane I've ever seen.")

From: [identity profile] odditycollector.livejournal.com


You would be *amazed* at what I haven't seen. Casablanca! More than 5 episodes of original Trek! Blake's 7! Every video game ever. Half the library of 4 dvds I own, and have owned for many months. You would think I am dating the shows, how worried I am they will break my heart. (I might have stuck with Caprica longer if I trusted RDM any more.)

From: [identity profile] the-wanlorn.livejournal.com


"She should watch Farscape, too! It's lolzier!"

Isn't that the fucking weirdest thing about Farscape? Even though, while I'm watching it, nearly every episode tears my heart out, when I remember it, I remember it as a mostly lolzy show. I think that may be because it's a weirdly hopeful show. I mean, to me, the basic message is "Life sucks, and it's hard, and it will change you, and a large amount of your friends will be killed be Scarrans, and you will be driven insane, but if you stick through it, in the end, everything will be okay."

...Man, when I type it out like that, it does not sound like its message is about hope at all. D:

Also, speaking of people being driven batshit insane, how fucking awesome was "Crackers Don't Matter" for making you go "Ha ha that Crichton, he sure was crazy there, what a funny episode, good thing he's not that crazy really!" and then DDDDDDDDDDD: by the end of season four because he is that crazy now?
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