psst, comics people....

[odditycollector]

Does anyone know if the September 11th terrorist attacks happened in the DCU?

My entirely uninformed guess is no, as I've never noticed any mention of it, and also it really has no *place* in that world. On the other hand, I know it happened in the Marvel 'verse, and comics were never much the place for sense, so. Shrug.

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[randomsign.livejournal.com]

god, lets fucking hope not.

[odditycollector.livejournal.com]

Wow. That's a lot of... intensity.

;)

[randomsign.livejournal.com]

That's one word for it :).

It's just comic book universes should, in no way, mirror the real world. Their events do not take place in reality, they don't pretend to have them take place in reality, so there's a reason why they say the "marvel universe" or the "dc universe".

Keep real life shit out of fantasy.

[odditycollector.livejournal.com]

comic book universes should, in no way, mirror the real world
Well, in a way, that is their job. (But maybe I've just taken one too many lit. course.)

But, yeah. The Marvel & DC universes have dealt with superhumans and *aliens* for the last (however many decades they've decided on the latest recon) and tend to have entirely different *countries* than we do, and so cannot really support the same terrorist systems and plots. Different ones, hell yeah, because otherwise there'd be nothing to buy every week. And also, the DCU has people like Superman and Wonder Woman and etc. in it, so it would be very stupid even to *try* throwing an airplane at America.

I... think I've spent too much time thinking about this.

[m-butterfly.livejournal.com]

I actually really liked the JMS Spider-Man handling of it, though....

[odditycollector.livejournal.com]

Tha's cool. I don't actually have much of a problem with the Marvel decision anyway, mostly I suspect because I'm not nearly as invested. Plus, they don't really have a Superman level character, so I could accept a plane getting by. < / fanwank >

Do you know what the DC decision was, btw? *hopeful*

[lisa-bee.livejournal.com]

On the other hand, comics were used (especially in the 40s) to bolster national pride. Captain America, I think, is the best example of this (and I, of course, don't know if he's DC or Marvel...)

I think comics are fantasy, and to a certain extent they are completely separate from real life. But how relevant can they be, how much can readers connect with them, if they remain completely uninvolved and unaffected by current concerns?

[odditycollector.livejournal.com]

Captain America, I think, is the best example of this (and I, of course, don't know if he's DC or Marvel...)
Marvel. Marvel, it seems, has more of a tradition in that sense, although you do get the occasional Batman vs the Nazis sort of crack...

But how relevant can they be, how much can readers connect with them, if they remain completely uninvolved and unaffected by current concerns?
I think a lot of it is that I'm Canadian (and so is randomsign) so that some things which really *are* current concerns and/or common attitudes in the States (where the things are published) seem a slight bit, well, alien over here. Something like the Sept. 11 attack (which, okay, is *very* firmly rooted in US collective consciousness right now) just doesn't seem to belong in a world without *that* America. (But maybe it doesn't still count as any America if you take that away? I'm not close enough to say.)

I think I'm maybe not explaining myself very well. It's... the AU game. You change this event and that fact, and then you *don't* end up in the same place. Which is exactly my argument for why the attacks shouldn't have happened in the DCU. I still have no idea if they actually *did* or not.

[lisa-bee.livejournal.com]

That makes sense. Especially the assumption that the comic publishers seem to make about everyone being American and having that same mindset re. certain events (particularly Sept. 11 attacks)

I have no idea if they happened. I'd like for them not to have happened, personally, but that may be more escapism than good reasoning.